Posted by: gaiusc | 5 November, 2008

Are these people bothered at all?

Daft.ie is a fantastic resource for landlords, tenants, sellers, buyers & plain nosey people who just want to have a browse around. Used in conjunction with the Property-Bee, it becomes even more useful but more about that later.

What bothers me is the amount of people putting their ads on daft and making no real attempt to show the place in the best light. I’m talking about photos here. If somebody won’t put a photo up, I won’t bother clicking on their ad. It’s that simple. If you’re providing a service in any other sector, where clients will hand over four figure sums every month, they will at least want a preliminary look at the goods. There’s no point in wasting your time looking at places that won’t be suitable. By not sticking up photos, prospective landlords basically admit that the place isn’t worth the rent they’re asking. Do a quick browse on Daft and you’ll see straight away that a large proportion of ads don’t even have a single picture. No matter how attractive the price is, I’m not even going to click on the ad because it could be a run-down slum for all I know. Frankly, I wish Daft would allow you to filter for properties that don’t have pictures.

Sometimes though, photos are put up when it is clear they really weren’t bothered. An excellent example is below:

It’s for a property in Tallaght and the asking rent is at €1200 per month. I’m not a snob and people always need somewhere to live but even the simple task of clearing the discarded furniture from the front garden would make the property look less forbidding. Would it have killed them to move the gas bottle inside the door? These things cost no money and take very little time. I remember seeing an ad for a property in Galway where you could clearly see the scorch mark outside the house where the bin had been torched. Moving about a foot forward while taking the photo would have obscured the mark. When a prospective landlord won’t even do that, do you really want to trust them with more important stuff like fixing heating, leaks, etc?

With 18971 properties to let in Ireland (as of 5th November), landlords can’t afford to be slack in their efforts to find good tenants. See Daftwatch for an idea just how flooded the rental market is right now. Consider that two years ago, the number of places available to rent on Daft was a quarter of what it is now.

The Property Bee toolbar is a superb resource for use with Daft. You need Firefox to run it but once you have it installed, it will track changes to ads. I use it all the time and it can be very interesting to see how some places set the asking rent too high and then chase the market down. Below is one place in Kilmainham that has up on Daft since August and still hasn’t let. Dropping the rent by €1 will really do the trick I guess.

€799 monthly, 1 bedroom, 1 bathroom, furnished

Available Now – Available now: A unique opportunity to rent a keenly priced, spacious 1 bed apartment within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated a very short stroll from the Luas Stop at St. James Hospital and Heuston Train Station, it is ser…

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05 November 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available Now – Available now: A unique opportunity to rent a keenly priced, spacious 1 & bed apartment within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated a very short stroll from the Luas Stop at St. James Hospital and Heuston Train Station, it…Date it is ser…Date Entered: (yesterday morning) (today, 2 hours 58 minutes ago)
* Price changed: from ‘€800 monthly’ to ‘€799 monthly’
* Brief Description changed: Available Now – Available now: A unique opportunity to rent a keenly priced, spacious 1 bed apartment within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated a very short stroll from the Luas Stop at St. James Hospital and Heuston Train Station, it is ser…Date Entered: (today, 2 3 hours 58 21 minutes ago)

29 October 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available Now – Available now: A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of a keenly priced, spacious 1 & 2 bed apartments & flats apartment within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated a very short stroll from the Luas Stop at St. James Hospital and Heuston Train St…Date Station, it…Date Entered: (yesterday afternoon) morning)
* Price changed: from ‘€690 monthly’ to ‘€800 monthly’

11 October 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available Now – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of keenly priced, spacious 1 bed apartments & flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated a very short stroll from the Luas Stop at St. James Hospital and Heuston Train Station, it is serviced by t…Date St…Date Entered: (yesterday morning) afternoon)

19 September 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available Now – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 1 bed apartments & flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated a very short stroll from the Luas Stop at St. James Hospital and Heuston Train Station, it is serviced by t…Date Entered: (today, 7 hours ago) (yesterday morning)

18 September 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October Now – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 1 bed apartments & flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between a very short stroll from the Luas Stop at James St St. James Hospital and Heuston Station and Train Station, it is serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on James …Date t…Date Entered: (today, 11 7 hours ago)
* Price changed: from ‘€700 Monthly’ to ‘€690 monthly’

17 September 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 1 bed apartments/flats apartments & flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on James St. L…Date …Date Entered: (today, 13 11 hours ago)

16 September 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 1 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on James St. L…Date Entered: (yesterday morning) (today, 13 hours ago)

14 September 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on Jam…Date James St. L…Date Entered: (today, 6 hours ago) (yesterday morning)

04 September 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on Jam…Date Entered: (today, 12 hours 56 minutes ago)
* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on Jam…Date Entered: (today, 56 minutes 6 hours ago)

03 September 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available Now 22nd October – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on Jam…Date Entered: (today, 8 12 hours ago)

31 August 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available Now – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 33 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on J…Date Jam…Date Entered: (today, 1 hour 30 minutes 8 hours ago)

29 August 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October Now – A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 33 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St St, Griffith College, Portobello College and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on James St. Located in a much sought after ar…Date J…Date Entered: (today, 4 hours 47 1 hour 30 minutes ago)

27 August 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October – Available October 22nd-A A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 34 33 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on James St. Located…Date Located in a much sought after ar…Date Entered: (today, 12 4 hours 47 minutes ago)

26 August 2008

* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October – Available October 22nd-An unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 34 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St. and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on James St. Loca…Date Entered: (today, 5 hours 1 hour 14 minutes ago)
* Brief Description changed: Available 22nd October – Available October 22nd-An 22nd-A unique opportunity to rent from a selection of 34 1 & 2 bed apartments/flats within walking distance of Temple Bar, Grafton St, NCAD, Trinity College, DIT Bolton St & Kevin St and St James Hospital. Situated between the Luas Stop at James St. St and Heuston Station and serviced by the 123 & 78A bus routes on James St. Loca…Date Located…Date Entered: (today, 1 hour 14 minutes 12 hours ago)
* Title changed: No.1 Mount Brown, Tathony House, Bow Lane West, Kilmainham, Dublin 8, South Dublin City – Apartment to let

25 August 2008

* Initial entry found.

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Responses

  1. I love the their approach to pricing alright!

    Struggling to rent at €700, so lets see what happens when we drop it to €690.

    Still nothing… Well, if decreasing the rent by €10 does not work, maybe we should take the opposite approach and increase it by 16% to €800. This may be what we were doing wrong.

    No wait, I saw this in a supermarket once, lets try €799! What cunning, eh?

  2. Maybe they hoped that if they left all the furniture (& classy furniture at that) in the front garden, then no-one would notice that the house is pink.

  3. For your information, we have 33 different 1 & 2 bed flats and apartments to let of different sizes and hence different prices.
    As for the apartment that’s been on daft since August, that property has been let as has the 32 others. Strangely enough when you have 33 units there will always be people on short term leases who leave and those units will need to be relet and therefore readvertised.

  4. Fair enough Ronan. Thanks for the clarification.


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